John and Janna discuss the process of deconstructing from high-control religious environments, focusing on personal experiences, theological distortions, and emotional struggles. Janna shares how her journey began with questioning prophetic voices and church teachings, and how that led to a deeper search for truth. John affirms the difficulty of detangling religious systems, highlighting how movements like the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), Word of Faith, and Christian nationalism have converged into a hybrid system of political, spiritual, and cultural influence. They also reflect on the psychological toll of groupthink, legalism, and deception that often characterize such systems.<br /><br />The discussion then moves into historical roots of modern movements, including the origins of Christian nationalism and its ties to early 20th-century figures. John explains how doctrines like manifested sons, spiritual government, and dominionism developed through figures like William Branham and Gerald L. K. Smith. The conversation explores how modern leaders carry these themes forward under new language, often elevating spiritual elitism and distorting scripture. Both reflect on the damage caused by performance-based faith and the need to return to a simple relationship with Jesus, grounded in love, humility, and the teachings of the New Testament.<br /><br />Chapter List <br />00:00 Introduction <br />01:04 Jana begins her story of questioning NAR teachings <br />03:21 The challenges of deconstruction and disillusionment <br />07:04 Convergence of NAR, Word of Faith, prophecy, and nationalism <br />08:09 Sorting truth from error in movements and doctrines <br />13:10 Why movements fracture into denominations and sects <br />15:34 New Thought influences and the rise of positive thinking <br />19:42 Earthly focus of NAR and coaching culture <br />22:05 Re-examining how the Bible was written and used <br />28:01 Health, wealth, and the roots of prosperity doctrine <br />30:04 Cyclical healing movements and modern leaders <br />34:09 Christian nationalism and political cult language <br />39:04 Historical roots: Winrod, Smith, and anti-Semitic ties <br />45:24 Old Testament law and blending covenants in NAR <br />50:25 Jewish feasts and Old Testament practices in NAR circles <br />54:39 Works-based faith and emptiness in prophetic culture <br />55:01 “God is in charge but not in control” and Manifested Sons of God <br />59:00 Supernatural race teaching and us-versus-them mentality <br />1:01:17 Dominionism and the drive to dominate society <br />______________________<br />Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR:<br />Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962<br />Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K<br />______________________<br />– Support the channel: https://www.patreon.com/branham<br />– Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBSpezVG15TVG-lOYMRXuyQ<br />– Visit the website: https://william-branham.org<br />– Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WilliamBranhamOrg <br />– Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@william.m.branham<br />– Fo
